Brake pads TR4A

[monty]

I want to try different brake pads in the 4A. For several years I have used Green Stuff but think I can do better. What are people preferring these days.

I tried Mintex fast road pads in my TR4 a few years ago & they squealed terribly even with anti squeal shims & they were dumped & replaced with quality standard items. Some people have suggested Hawk but what type? Confused!

Any thoughts welcome. Many thanks.

[qkingston]

Hi Monty, Ive had Hawk HB169N.560 fitted for the last 3yrs, they work well I find. Got them from Cambridge Motor Sport

Rgds

David

this link:

https://cambridgemotorsport.com/performance-brake-pads/12695-hawk-hps-fast-road-brake-pads-triumph-tr3a-6.html

Edited July 4, 2025 by qkingston
link added

[monty]

32 minutes ago, qkingston said:

Hi Monty, Ive had Hawk HB169N.560 fitted for the last 3yrs, they work well I find. Got them from Cambridge Motor Sport

Rgds

David

this link:

https://cambridgemotorsport.com/performance-brake-pads/12695-hawk-hps-fast-road-brake-pads-triumph-tr3a-6.html

No squealing problems David?

[qkingston]

I fitted the anti-squeal shims, but no issues since then

[monty]

5 hours ago, qkingston said:

I fitted the anti-squeal shims, but no issues since then

Do shims come with those pads David?

[qkingston]

No seperately. I fitted the shims which were recommended by Roger H, Marco and others; I've been trying to find the old post in which they were described but I can't find it with this new website!! Someone might be able to provide the details??

David

[stuart]

39 minutes ago, qkingston said:

No seperately. I fitted the shims which were recommended by Roger H, Marco and others; I've been trying to find the old post in which they were described but I can't find it with this new website!! Someone might be able to provide the details??

David

Item 56 here https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/en-gb/front-brakes-tr2-4a-1953-67-tr24--13--03--01

Stuart.

[monty]

2 hours ago, stuart said:

Item 56 here https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/en-gb/front-brakes-tr2-4a-1953-67-tr24--13--03--01

Stuart.

Thanks Stuart. Are these (56) suitable for all brands of pads?

[stuart]

12 minutes ago, monty said:

Thanks Stuart. Are these (56) suitable for all brands of pads?

Theyre specific to the caliper so yes any type of pad works with them.

Stuart.

[qkingston]

These are actually the ones I was referring to (thanks Roger)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334077706147

David

[John Morrison]

From memory, always a risk these days, I got anti squeal pads from, 

Bigg Red after a recommend potion on this forum.

Used them on a troublesome euro box, but they did work very well.

John.

[RogerH]

On 7/4/2025 at 12:47 PM, monty said:

I want to try different brake pads in the 4A. For several years I have used Green Stuff but think I can do better. What are people preferring these days.

I tried Mintex fast road pads in my TR4 a few years ago & they squealed terribly even with anti squeal shims & they were dumped & replaced with quality standard items. Some people have suggested Hawk but what type? Confused!

Any thoughts welcome. Many thanks.

Hi Monty

just to be a little different I use Ferodo pads.  I get them from Burton Power and they work very well.  https://www.burtonpower.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?p=2&q=Ferodo+

I haven't tried any of the mintex so can't compare.

Ferodo  FER 167  come in three grades   

FER167  street cars   £117

FER167H Track days   £132

FER167R Race days.  £146

They stop. They don't fade.  They can squeal     but the above shims will stop that that.

 

Roger

PS the pin holes do need to be opened to be round

Edited July 5, 2025 by RogerH

[Z320]

5 hours ago, qkingston said:

No seperately. I fitted the shims which were recommended by Roger H, Marco and others; I've been trying to find the old post in which they were described but I can't find it with this new website!! Someone might be able to provide the details??

David

Here it comes,

with expanation why

 

Edited July 5, 2025 by Z320

[tim hunt]

On 7/5/2025 at 3:14 PM, RogerH said:

Hi Monty

just to be a little different I use Ferodo pads.  I get them from Burton Power and they work very well.  https://www.burtonpower.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?p=2&q=Ferodo+

I haven't tried any of the mintex so can't compare.

Ferodo  FER 167  come in three grades   

FER167  street cars   £117

FER167H Track days   £132

FER167R Race days.  £146

They stop. They don't fade.  They can squeal     but the above shims will stop that that.

 

Roger

PS the pin holes do need to be opened to be round

+_1 for Ferodo 167 DS Performance from Burton Power. Never managed to make them fade in road use and silent compared to Green Stuff (yuk) or Mintex 1144. I also have the shims/clips fitted.

Tim

 

Tim 

[RogerH]

[RJSTR4A]

I went with ceramic pads many years ago because they are nearly dustless (saves me having to clean my wire wheels but once a season).  Perfectly happy and totally quiet.  Mind you, I do not ask a lot of my brakes other than to stop me at stop lights/signs.  I never push them hard

Bob

[Besalu]

Yesterday i had a front brake disc seize while driving. Luckily i was very close to home and no damage done. 
So i have been looking at various threads about calipers and discs and i am thinking of having the calipers rebuilt.
however it seems the calipers i have in there now are not original (not surprised tbh). 
Can anyone help identify these for me? Stamped number 7213 and on the reverse the numbers
SD2213
151218
After reading Stuart's advice about keeping original calipers i was thinking of getting a quote from a company such as BiggRed.
Has anyone used them or can anyone give me some alternative suggestions of companies that do this work?
It seems the Hawk discs the best option?
Thanks in advance for any help or guidance,
Richard

[stuart]

Cheaper to buy a pair of new calipers from TR Shop, about £120 the pair 

Stuart

[BlueTR3A-5EKT]

Repro 16P calipers are even cheaper from MGOC.  Also fits Ford and MGC

https://www.mgocspares.co.uk/product/34284/m16-brake-caliper-lh-cast-steel

[Nigel C]

am I right in thinking you can use Ford Escort and just "tickle" the pin holes?

 

 

[BlueTR3A-5EKT]

Yes if the pads are for the later calipers using 3/16” pins.  

[harrytr5]

I much prefer original calipers fully rebuilt by past parts. Big Red do not do them any more. The repro calipers I found the difficult to bleed but found a way in the end. Give me original every day.

Regards Harry