dblenk Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Fitted the spin on as its a pain with the std filter on a LHD guess what the filter crushes with the strap tool but doesnt move do i use brute force or stick a screw driver through it hahaha i could just remove the whole assy i only did it hand tight David Quote
trchris Posted February 13 Report Posted February 13 Hi David Had a few like that over the years on different cars, I just carried on with the strap eventually they come loose Chris Quote
dblenk Posted February 13 Author Report Posted February 13 ok cheers Chris i never like pushes things as its either not meant to be or it brakes haha i will go at it monday david Quote
Steve Morris Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 I find that the chain tool round the hex section at the end works eventually Quote
Mike C Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 Don't remove the whole assembly. The seal against the block is really difficult to get right. Have you tried using the strap tool with the engine hot (you need to be careful when loosening it hot for obvious reasons)? Quote
Lebro Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 I think a lot of the problem is overtighening the filter when fitting. Bob Quote
Trev Good Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 What strap tool are you using? I have three to choose from, a chain, a strap and a rubber band. I always tighten with the rubber band and loosen by band, then strap, then chain if it is seized on....always seems to come off! Mind you, I have also used a sharp screwdriver on a filter tightened by a previous owner when all else fails! Quote
Bfg Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 (edited) Perhaps one like this Oil filter wrench ? . . . . https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195807733695 This is probably the correct tool for the job. They come in different sizes but the above is the first one I happened to find on ebay, I have a couple, from my BMW motorcycling days, and it worked because it engages all the way around without crushing. Unfortunately once you use other types of strap or chain on an oil filter canister then its shape is buggered and then this socket no longer fits. Pete Edited March 1 by Bfg Quote
Waldi Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 Hi David, I have a MANN W712/52 fitted, it has a very solid steel hex-nut welded to the cannister. It was given to me by Niall, after I struggled with the K&N filters (which also have a hex but that are much weaker). Somehow the K&N filters required to be fitted with quite some force otherwise they would leak. This gives trouble when you want to renew them, as Bob mentions. If you want a longer filter, MANN W719/21 can be used. Both have an anti-drain back valve and by-pass. Waldi Quote
dblenk Posted March 1 Author Report Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Waldi said: Hi David, I have a MANN W712/52 fitted, it has a very solid steel hex-nut welded to the cannister. It was given to me by Niall, after I struggled with the K&N filters (which also have a hex but that are much weaker). Somehow the K&N filters required to be fitted with quite some force otherwise they would leak. This gives trouble when you want to renew them, as Bob mentions. If you want a longer filter, MANN W719/21 can be used. Both have an anti-drain back valve and by-pass. Waldi Cheers Waldi i think i was nervous when it started to crush and not move many years ago i di stick a screwdriver through it 9very messy) as chris said i just went for it with plenty of strength and it started to turn then it was ok (i never like to force things) all good now (filter is a moss one) i have noted your filter for the future david Quote
Z320 Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 At the moment I don’t own a car with such a modern oil filter, but a „3 fingers“ oil filter tool from „Hatez“. Pretty expensive but there are cheap copies from China available Quote
Scott M Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 45 minutes ago, Z320 said: At the moment I don’t own a car with such a modern oil filter, but a „3 fingers“ oil filter tool from „Hatez“. Pretty expensive but there are cheap copies from China available That’s what I use, fits on 1/2” drive wrench and a cam tightens the legs in use . Can’t remember what they are called but work well. I always found the straps/chains slipped or totally wrecked the filter causing a mess - although not as messy as the good old screwdriver through the filter method I used in the 80s Quote
Lebro Posted March 1 Report Posted March 1 I have one, they are also good for removing / replacing the overdrive drain plug ! Bob Quote
Steve-B Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 23 hours ago, Bfg said: Perhaps one like this Oil filter wrench ? . . . . Pete Seeing this thread I was about to go to the garage and take a picture of mine Pete! I've had one since the mid-70s when Dad and I restored a 66 Spitfire. Worth more than its weight in gold and only 1 car I've ever owned it didn't fit! Quote
dblenk Posted Tuesday at 01:51 PM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 01:51 PM Nice piece of kit that Quote
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