TR5 Barn find

[Dave I O W]

Another TR5 barn find to be auctioned, They keep turning up I wonder how many more are out there!!

Cheers

Dave.https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C2044108

[stuart]

At least its complete and still streets ahead of the one Im currently doing 😮

Stuart.

[Hamish]

8 minutes ago, stuart said:

At least its complete and still streets ahead of the one Im currently doing 😮

Stuart.

Stuart do you do a car at a time or can you have a change and work on a few at a time. Are they always full resto’s ?

[Gary Flinn]

I saw this one listed for sale at the Stoneleigh Restoration show last year, it would seem no one was interested? 

[stuart]

25 minutes ago, Gary Flinn said:

I saw this one listed for sale at the Stoneleigh Restoration show last year, it would seem no one was interested? 

I think the pricing was too ambitious back then.

Stuart.

[stuart]

36 minutes ago, Hamish said:

Stuart do you do a car at a time or can you have a change and work on a few at a time. Are they always full resto’s ?

I usually just do one at a time as I dont really have room enough for more, that said I often start gathering bits for the next one as I go along.  There are occasionally the odd one in for smaller work like servicing and MOT. Obviously during shooting season there isnt much done 😉

Yes most have been nut and bolt restos.

My old workshop was much bigger so I could have two on the go at the same time but Im too old for that now!

Stuart.

[PodOne]

Hi folk

What do folk think the DIY cost of doing her would be?

Is 10-15k reasonable estimate?

I know the DIY cost of doing my 6 which was in worse shape and learned a lot along the way and would now likely repair the majority of what's there. The MIG is itching for something new and I'd love another blue sister for the 6.

Andy

[trchris]

Hi Andy 

My guess would be north of £30000

Chris

[Hamish]

3 hours ago, stuart said:

I usually just do one at a time as I dont really have room enough for more, that said I often start gathering bits for the next one as I go along.  There are occasionally the odd one in for smaller work like servicing and MOT. Obviously during shooting season there isnt much done 😉

Yes most have been nut and bolt restos.

My old workshop was much bigger so I could have two on the go at the same time but Im too old for that now!

Stuart.

🫡 I salute you and your skills

[Malbaby]

3 hours ago, trchris said:

Hi Andy 

My guess would be north of £30000

Chris

I agree....A long way north....Much cheaper to build a faux TR5 from a 4A.

[Tim T]

16 hours ago, PodOne said:

Hi folk

What do folk think the DIY cost of doing her would be?

Is 10-15k reasonable estimate?

I know the DIY cost of doing my 6 which was in worse shape and learned a lot along the way and would now likely repair the majority of what's there. The MIG is itching for something new and I'd love another blue sister for the 6.

Andy

Andy,
When you say a DIY restoration, do you mean doing absolutely everything yourself, ie all major mechanical rebuilds, engine, gearbox, diff, refurbishing the PI, brakes, body panel repairs, electricals including instruments, and finished paintwork? Obviously rechroming is subbed out.

Tim
 

[harlequin]

Often it's not just about the money. There's a lot of satisfaction in building your own car, it's a hobby and helps the the little grey cells to shuffle around.

Coming back to the money other hobbies can cost a fair bit, what's the price of a season ticket at the Arsenal nowadays?

George 

[stuart]

17 hours ago, PodOne said:

Hi folk

What do folk think the DIY cost of doing her would be?

Is 10-15k reasonable estimate?

I know the DIY cost of doing my 6 which was in worse shape and learned a lot along the way and would now likely repair the majority of what's there. The MIG is itching for something new and I'd love another blue sister for the 6.

Andy

It would largely depend on how skilled you are, Its complete so that in itself is a bonus, Im currently gathering bits for a very early TR4 resto, its not in too bad condition having come out of Texas so doesnt need huge amounts of welding (Itll still get floors and sills anyway) and so far Ive probably spent about £5k in bits including all the bits to convert left to right so apart from paint and materials and a bit of trim plus tyres thats about it. Luckily I paid a fraction of what they probably want for that 5. As your not counting your time then you could probably do it for under £20k thats for sure. I also bought most of my bits for mine last year so beat the huge price increases your going to see now with everything else thats going on in the world. Buying from better suppliers also helps so not the new conglomerate for one.

Stuart.

[stuart]

12 hours ago, Malbaby said:

I agree....A long way north....Much cheaper to build a faux TR5 from a 4A.

But it`ll never be a 5 which is the whole point of the exercise.

Stuart.

[PodOne]

10 hours ago, Tim T said:

Andy,
When you say a DIY restoration, do you mean doing absolutely everything yourself, ie all major mechanical rebuilds, engine, gearbox, diff, refurbishing the PI, brakes, body panel repairs, electricals including instruments, and finished paintwork? Obviously rechroming is subbed out.

Tim
 

Hi Tim

I did the vast majority of the work on the TR6 and yes I subbed out the gearbox/OD, engine machining but rebuilt everything else mechanically. Body/chassis wise, learned to lead load, did all the paint prep from bare metal up to the final top coat, made a better wiring loom and did some of the PI. Learned the hard way who to get parts from. She started from a lower kit of parts. Biggest help was the folk on here so nothing was too difficult to overcome with patience.. Big plus this time around is I bought a lot of good tools/kit which is ready to use again. All the nickel plating I did DIY, chrome there is no way around even for pound notes.

10 hours ago, harlequin said:

Often it's not just about the money. There's a lot of satisfaction in building your own car, it's a hobby and helps the the little grey cells to shuffle around.

Coming back to the money other hobbies can cost a fair bit, what's the price of a season ticket at the Arsenal nowadays?

George 

Agree I get as much pleasure restoring, finding good parts to fettle as driving and I like things to be done to as high as standard as I can achieve given my time is free. I hate half arsed jobs.  Making a TR5 from a 4 has no appeal as the time involved would be the same and in the end as Stuart says it's not a 5. Having them both the same colour and interior side by side would be nice. 

9 hours ago, stuart said:

It would largely depend on how skilled you are, Its complete so that in itself is a bonus, Im currently gathering bits for a very early TR4 resto, its not in too bad condition having come out of Texas so doesnt need huge amounts of welding (Itll still get floors and sills anyway) and so far Ive probably spent about £5k in bits including all the bits to convert left to right so apart from paint and materials and a bit of trim plus tyres thats about it. Luckily I paid a fraction of what they probably want for that 5. As your not counting your time then you could probably do it for under £20k thats for sure. I also bought most of my bits for mine last year so beat the huge price increases your going to see now with everything else thats going on in the world. Buying from better suppliers also helps so not the new conglomerate for one.

Stuart.

Happy to give you credit here Stuart as your advice was well received when doing the 6. Agree having a more complete car to start with would be a bonus and keep costs down and waiting for the right parts to come up another and restoring what's there even better. Skill wise always happy to keep trying until its right but of course in the current economic climate money is a factor but then there are no pockets in shrouds only the tax man!

Food for thought thanks all for the feedback. 

Andy

[Malbaby]

11 hours ago, stuart said:

But it`ll never be a 5 which is the whole point of the exercise.

Stuart.

As a general discussion on TR5's.....The big attraction with TR5's is their relatively rarity, and therefore desirability....Not everyone can afford to buy a genuine TR5 which are at least $20k over a TR4 series....Unless you are buying a basket case, with the associated high restoration costs....[There are a lot of car guys where genuine concours correct cars are not high on their agenda].

Edited April 9 by Malbaby

[PriceLes]

On the same page as the original link, there are six running TR5’s listed so not that rare it seems. The car in question is yet another left to rot to the point I could see no cost being anywhere a return. A charity case at best especially based on the other TR5’s listed.

Edited April 10 by PriceLes