Seats

[roy53]

Did any early 4s have webbing instead of the rubber diaframs ?

[stuart]

2 hours ago, roy53 said:

Did any early 4s have webbing instead of the rubber diaframs ?

Early 4s had the spring bases same as the sidescreen cars, thats the "Type1" seats and the  "Type2" were the same just slightly different shape , the "Type3" Which are the same as 4a ones had diaphragms in the bases .The "Type3" and 4a seats had webbing in the upright section only. 

Stuart.

[roy53]

Ok these that I’m helping with have webbing bases

have ordered diaphrams so got some battle on getting them to fit

[stuart]

15 hours ago, roy53 said:

Ok these that I’m helping with have webbing bases

have ordered diaphrams so got some battle on getting them to fit

You will do without hog ring pliers to pull them together, my Dad broke a bone in his hand trying to fit a new diaphragm in my Mums mini back in the sixties

Stuart.

[roy53]

On 8/8/2026 at 11:31 AM, stuart said:

You will do without hog ring pliers to pull them together, my Dad broke a bone in his hand trying to fit a new diaphragm in my Mums mini back in the sixties

Stuart.

do you have a picture of such a tool ?

[stuart]

There’s a couple Hog ring tool

Hog ring tool

Stuart

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Hog Ring Pliers

The auto feed type are nice for repetitive production work.   We had air driven ones in the factory trim shop.

I use the angled nose ones    Mine are a very ancient set,  I think made by Maun.

 

[roy53]

Well all sorted thanks to a YouTube video 

musing a steel bar 2tie raps and a seat hook to pull the seat hook to the frame. Quite tough though 

10 mins 2 seats and money saved